In a rebroadcast from Seekers of Meaning TV Show and Podcast, Chaplain Barry Pitegoff, BCC, of Neshama-The National Association of Jewish Chaplains, and Missy Stolfi from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention join Rabbi Richard Address to discuss their upcoming virtual webinar, “Through a Jewish Lens,” for survivors of suicide victims. The webinar takes place Sunday, November 24 from noon to 2 p.m. EST.
NeshamaCast is pleased to rebroadcast this edition of the Seekers of Meaning TV Show and Podcast, hosted by Rabbi Richard Address. In this episode, Chaplain Barry Pitegoff, BCC, of Neshama-The National Association of Jewish Chaplains, and Missy Stolfi from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention join Rabbi Address to discuss their upcoming virtual webinar, “Through a Jewish Lens,” for survivors of suicide victims. The webinar takes place Sunday, November 24 from noon to 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
This conversation focuses on the critical issue of suicide awareness and prevention within the Jewish community, featuring insights from experts on the statistics, the impact of loneliness, the role of faith leaders, and the introduction of the 988 crisis lifeline. The discussion also highlights the upcoming program, ‘Through a Jewish Lens: Hope and Healing for Suicide Loss Survivors,’ aimed at providing support and resources for those affected by suicide loss.
This year’s program will feature recorded remarks from suicide loss survivor and mental health advocate Congressman Jamie Raskin (MD-8) and Ivan Maisel, a longtime ESPN writer and author, who is also a survivor of suicide loss. The program will include live reflections and storytelling from loss survivors across the country and small group discussions.
You can get more information and registration information here.
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Rabbi Richard F. Address, D.Min, is the Founder and Director of www.jewishsacredaging.com. Rabbi Address served for over three decades on staff of the Union for Reform Judaism; first as a Regional Director and then, beginning in 1997, as Founder and Director of the URJ’s Department of Jewish Family Concerns and served as a specialist and consultant for the North American Reform Movement in the areas of family related programming. Rabbi Address was ordained from Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion in 1972 and began his rabbinic career in Los Angeles congregations. He also served as a part time rabbi for Beth Hillel in Carmel, NJ while regional director and, after his URJ tenure, served as senior rabbi of Congregation M’kor Shalom in Cherry Hill, NJ from 2011-2014.
Chaplain Barry E. Pitegoff, BCC, is Staff Chaplain at Bon Secours Community Hospital in Port Jervis, NY, serves as the NAJC Volunteer Webmaster (a/k/a “najcwebmaven”), and is certified by the Red Cross in Disaster Spiritual Care Services. Chaplain Pitegoff transformed 25+ years of volunteer chaplaincy at hospices and hospitals into professional chaplaincy with a BCC from NAJC. Chaplain Pitegoff holds a BBA in Statistics from Baruch College / CUNY, an MBA from Adelphi University, and graduate studies in Theology and the Behavioral Sciences at the University of South Florida. Chaplain Pitegoff is the Chair of the Planning Committee for “Through a Jewish Lens,” a day of virtual support for Jewish survivors of suicide loss, a project of AFSP, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.
Missy Stolfi, M.Ed., i is a dedicated nonprofit professional with a strong commitment to mental health advocacy. Currently serving as the Area Director for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention in the Capital and North Country regions of New York, she focuses on promoting mental health awareness and suicide prevention initiatives.
With a Master’s degree in Higher Education Administration from the University at Buffalo, Missy is passionate about social justice, LGBTQ+ rights, and community engagement. She is also an enthusiastic volunteer and a proud aunt, known for her love of animals and support for local sports teams, including the Buffalo Bills and New York Yankees.
In addition to her role at AFSP, Missy serves on the board of Compass House, an emergency shelter and resource center, further demonstrating her commitment to community service and support for vulnerable populations.
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Rabbi Ed Bernstein: Hello and welcome to NeshamaCast, Exploring Jewish spiritual care today, brought to you by Neshama Association of Jewish Chaplains. I'm your host, Rabbi Ed Bernstein.
This program contains references to suicide, so do take care while listening.
This program originally aired on the Seekers of Meaning podcast produced by Jewish Sacred Aging. I want to thank the podcast producer and director of Jewish Sacred Aging, Rabbi Richard Address, for granting permission to NeshamaCast to rebroadcast this episode on our feed. Rabbi Adran is a member of NAJC, and we always welcome opportunities for collaboration between NAJC and Jewish Sacred Aging.
In this program, Rabbi Address joins the conversation with Chaplain Barry Pitegoff, my colleague on the board of the Neshama, Association of Jewish Chaplains. And Missy Stolfi from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. They joined Rabbi Address to discuss their upcoming virtual webinar through a Jewish lens for survivors of suicide Victims.
The webinar takes place Sunday, November th from noon to p.m. Eastern Standard Time. I'll now send it over to Rabbi Richard Address and the Seekers of Meaning podcast.
Rabbi Richard Address: Shalom and welcome again to Seeker's meeting on Podcast TV. I'm your host, Rabbi Richard Edge. Thank you very, very much for joining us in what we hope to be a very, very powerful and interesting conversation today. If you would like to connect with us and make suggestions for comments on programs or ideas for future projects, please feel free to email me at rabbiaddress at jewishsacredaging.com. Check out the website, jewishsacredaging.com, the Jewish Sacred Aging Facebook page. We'd be very appreciative of your involvement and look forward to hearing from you.
One of the issues that has come up off and on several of these podcasts and continues to be a concern within the American Jewish community and outside the Jewish community as well, is the subject of today's podcast and has to do with issues around those people who are survivors of suicide.
We are very, very pleased and honored to welcome two very, very special guests to talk about a very powerful program that is about to be launched. So we welcome Barry Pitegoff, a chaplain one of the active board members of Neshama, The Association of Jewish Chaplains and Missy Stolfi, who is the Capital Region New York Chapter Director for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. I think I got all of that right.
So Barry and Missy, thank you very, very much for joining us. We want to talk a little bit at the beginning to set the stage about the current statistics, if that's possible, about the issue of suicide, and then really focus on bringing people up to date and inviting them to participate in a very, very powerful program being set for this Sunday, the 24th of November, entitled Through a Jewish Lens, Hope and Healing for Suicide Loss Provide Survivors.
We're going to talk about how to get involved. It's a Zoom program. And from noon to 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So you can do the math about where you live across North America. So first of all, Barry, Missy, thank you very, very much for joining us. Let's sort of like get the groundwork stage. First of all, do you have a sense of the statistics about suicide in the Jewish community now?
Missy Stolfi: So thank you so much, Rabbi Address for the opportunity to talk and to spend some time today with your viewers as well. When it comes to data and statistics around suicide, the data that we utilize most of all, when we speak nationally is through the Centers for Disease Control Prevention. So the CDC is really who helped drive so much of that. It's collected across states and municipalities across the country, So pretty much the numbers we are looking at as far as comprehensive analyze data is. Unfortunately, when it comes to data collection, faith group is not an area, a demographic that is captured when it comes to suicide death rates across the country. So we don't have accurate statistics there, but you know, we can gain some insights from those who have lost somebody to suicide or people that struggle with suicidal thoughts or behaviors or, you know, things like that too. So, the key is that no group is in human harm there are certain groups who have maybe higher risk factors or also stronger protective factors as well that can help reduce risk. So we don't have any kind of real clear indication when it comes to Jewish faith specifically.
Chaplain Pitegoff: I bring in my other cap as well as a demographer in my first career, the hospital views a uniform federal form for death certificate which does not include religion. It does include suicide as an option for death. And of course, by listening to the clergy you were involved with over time and the and the victims of suicide and loss we have untrained clergy and synagogue people there’s still this hesitancy about religion. You still have the bubbe maisse that it’s a sin and that you’re going to have great problems with it. We have untrained clergy and synagogue people who don’t know about to use a cemetery and what spaces to there’s still this block over it.
Rabbi Address: Do you have a sense though, Barry, Missy, that. My understanding and my understanding from my rabbinate is that this remains a multigenerational challenge, this isnot limited to one demographic community, for a whole variety of reasons.
Chaplain Pitegoff: Yeah, so when you look at just what we call the rate per the upper upper ages is now the fastest growing group on the rate per thousand.
Rabbi Address: And why is that?
Missy Stolfi: So in terms of older adults, a number of the attributing factors when it comes to suicide risk. First of all, a lot of life transitions, older adults are experiencing a lot of loss in their lives, whether it is lots of people were important to them, loss of identity when they are retiring, if their career was very essential to their lives, loss of autonomy. Health is often declining as well physically. And there's a lot of isolation as well. And so when you couple that with oftentimes older adults have access to lethal means or method for suicide and their bodies are perhaps a little more fragile, and they’re less likely to survive a suicide attempt. And so having that sense of connection and purpose really can be a huge protective factor for older adults. And oftentimes we forget about them, so we don't think of it as big of a tragedy, but we know that our older adults still have so much more to give. They still have so much value. So we want to make sure as we are paying attention to this particular group of folks in our communities that are posted to suicide risk.
Rabbi Address: Barry here, we were talking before. You were speculating on the impact um of loneliness isolation as a contributing factor? And how much do you think the pandemic really pushed this really and exacerbated?
Chaplain Pitegoff: Significantly, but I think the pandemic helped a lot, sadly to uh to increase it But we also have this issue of loneliness. And when I was looking at the academic studies on suicide, I came across this interesting phrase called marriage as a protector of suicide, which married people are less likely to die by suicide. And so divorced men become a higher cohort of suicides. Marriage is a protector. And the older we are, of course, the more likely you are to be by yourself for a variety of reasons.
Rabbi Address: I mean, the statistics now and research about relationships and the power of relationships and socialization as you get older as a guarantee of life enhancement. You really can't argue that anymore. I mean, it's just, as you guys were alluding to, that if I'm in a society i'm with people, that's the counteraction to isolation and loneliness.
Before we get to the program, I just want to ask you because you just triggered this on my own mind that is there a growth? I'm concerned about the pastoral counseling aspect of this. How are we reaching people who may be contemplating ending their own life? How do we intervene? How can we get them help spiritually, emotionally, therapeutically? Are we still behind the curve on that as a society? It would seem to me that the answer to that is unequivocally yes.
Missy Stolfi: I would say from our perspective, absolutely we need an increase in training for those who are faith leaders, whether that is clergy, whether it is lay leaders in congregations as well. We have some work to undo when it comes to faith communities. They can absolutely be a source of support. But if we have the right language and understanding, there's still a lot of miseducation and misinformation that has been been perpetuated in the community. And so being able to unlearn some of that and to teach our faith leader how to talk to you and listen to you and the signs to keep an eye and ear out for. And that's not maybe experiencing suicidal desperation. And then how to have that caring conversation with them. So including if somebody in the congregation has lost someone to suicide, we tend to be pretty good about wrapping our arms around those who have lost a loved one to cancer or a heart attack.
But unfortunately, when we learn someone has lost their love of suicide because we don't know what to say, the default is we say nothing, which increases the outcome of isolation, guilt, shame, all of that that can be tied up in this particular group. So there's amptly opportunity for us to better equip leaders in this space.
Chaplain Pitegoff: And the first outreach is now, Missy could tell you this new federal 988 program, which is not faith-based. It's a national outreach. And then from there, you could be directed to faith resources. But the first, we're trying to publicize this 988.
Rabbi Address: What is this program?
Missy Stolfi: So this is two years old now, but we always want to use the opportunity to meet sure our community members known about 988, which is the Suicide Crisis Lifeline.
And it went into effect July 2022. Previously, you would have to call a 1800-number that was a little long, difficult to remember. And really, 988 is created as an alternative to 911 but serves in a similar concept for mental health or even if you're not sure, but you're concerned for someone in your life or for yourself so either way. Access 988 across the country, text or chat online. It’s a whole network of call centers and wrap around care including follow up services, depending on what’s going on with that individual. And there's train price counselors who are able to ascertain what's going on in that moment, what does the appropriate response need to be.
And so I think that's something as just even a baseline for everybody to understand and know is a resource for them no matter where they are across the United States that they are able to access to themselves and help someone else that they're concerned about.
Rabbi Address: So let me get this. I feel the need. I pick up the phone, I dial, connect with 988, dial 988, and who is going to answer that phone? Who's on the other end?
Missy Stolfi: It's a train crisis counselor.
Rabbi Address: Okay. So that if I say I'm feeling very lonely, I'm feeling very depressed, I'm contemplating the ending my life, this individual has the training and the knowledge to be able to either speak to me in a certain way, provide me with resources, depending on where I live. Am I correct in that?
Missy Stolfi: Correct. You're absolutely correct. Yes.
Rabbi Address: Okay, so, and just to close this a little bit Barry, Neshama, the Association of Jewish Chaplains, is there training for chaplains, specific training to enhance experience dealing with suicide and survivors?
Chaplain Pitegoff : We have more chaplains who are experienced with bereavement support groups for suicide loss survivors. We have chaplain training other chaplains, particularly our rabbi chaplain Suzanne Offit up in Massachusetts. She does a suicide loss support group on zoom every other week and she does an annual Yizkor service for survivors. And she has helped us with training. And we have found in some of the breakout sessions through a Jewish Lens for the last few years this affinity for the chaplains we provide them with rather than some of the synagogue affiliated people who may have other associations with them that bad experience, people said the wrong thing at the wrong time, which I don't know if we could use the cemetery. I don't know how we're going to handle this. As our wonderful mentor, Rabbi Garfinkel. We're not here to make the world worse harder for people, do not place a stumbling blocks for the blind. But a lot of our survivors that found the pathway for a respectable Jewish funeral. So they turned to us during the meetings for chaplains because we're not part of a synagogue. They know us and they trust us, that’s nice.
Rabbi Address: So on Sunday, the 24th, this program called Through a Jewish Lens, Hope and Healing for Suicide Loss Survivors. Okay, so let's walk through this, the who, the what, the when, the where the why. This is Sunday, the 24th. It's on Zoom. I want to participate. This is something I need. How do I register for this?
Missy Stolfi: Absolutely. So you can visit afsd.org and to find any Survivor Day event in your community, including from Jewish Lens. And it is, and then we do some login information to all of our registrants leading up to the program. And this is one of many survivor day events. We call it for short, but the full name of the program is International Survivors of Suicide loss day and just to give a little history and impact.
International survivors of suicide loss day was created as an act of Congress in 1999. It was actually then, Senator Harry Reid from Nevada, who himself lost his father to suicide. So an act Congress designated that first Saturday before American Thanksgiving would be a day designated for suicide loss survivors specifically and acknowledging and supporting
particular grief journey and their healing journey. And so AFSP hosts in-person and virtual programs around the country. Most are on Saturday before Thanksgiving, but oftentimes you will see a few that are taking place around that time.
And a couple of years ago, my predecessor in this chapter saw a need and opportunity for those especially who are observant Jewishly to hold an opportunity, hold space outside of a Saturday but also to create an opportunity for folks to connect in particular with that Jewish perspective. So not just holding a cookie cutter version on a Sunday, but really to create it from the ground up on through that Jewish Lens since he started this about four years ago in the program and I’m going to hand this to Barry who’s been tied to this since the time we started this about four years ago, this particular program.
Barry Pitegoff: And I just walked into it, but Hashem pointed me first. I found it on the internet. I offered to help in 21 and 22. And in 23 I sent an email to that predecessor from Missy. I'm sitting in my hospital office where on the wall in front of me is a tracker that says, you may not finish the work, but you can't desist from it. I said, all right, I guess I gotta run it. If I put back my MBA and VBA quality plus my chaplaincy and gradually the program has evolved. It's different now than it was a few years ago because we don't have a film, we are required to show from the headquarters. It can be much more Jewish in the content. And we have some commitments with some major speakers to give us tapes this year. We're waiting for one or two. Congress J.D. Raskin was very interested. His son, Tommy died by suicide at age while Congressman Raskin was doing well at appearance in Congress. Hazan Michael Zussman, who's a good colleague from NHC, moved all the way to Vancouver, but he will open and close with a the cantorial selection. The first one is based on Rabbi Nachman's Life is a Narrow Bridge and the Secret of Not to Be Afraid, and how it will close with Heal Us Now by Chazan Scher. And in between, we will have actually this year some of our planning committee members talking about their journey, which includes Rabbi Dan Roberts, whom I met through you.
And then we will have always a breakout session of to minutes. I have six NHIC DCCs, five others plus me, to moderate the breakout session just so these people can talk to each other. And most of them have not seen each other before because they're scattered around the country. It gives them a chance to discuss and talk. We'll probably have one or two guided discussions depending on the moderator. One I'm always concerned about each y year: Why are you still signing up for Jewish programs? You have so many reasons to give up any faith. And yet this rent agency where you're still with your synagogue, you're still with the Federation. Where do you identify? How is that different? And of course, where has Judaism been for you in this very unique journey?
Rabbi Address: So I'm surprised you can do all this in two hours, to tell you the truth. So is there an age breakout. In other words, I'm a 12-year-old kid and my father or mother, God forbid this happened. Is there an age limit or have to be over 18 to participate in this?
Missy Stolfi: That's a great question, actually. We don't screen for that necessarily. However, it tends to be adults who do sign up, these events are really intended more for an adult audience. We do have, AFSP does provide resources around children and teens and suicide loss, including while we don't. host or facilitate our own suicide loss survivor support groups we do offer training for those who wish to facilitate those, including for those who wish to facilitate a more youth-based survivor support. So we do have a number of resources while Survivor Day is not exactly designed for that for younger people, but recognizing that young people and the way they experience loss can be, you know, definitely a much different perspective of where they are developmentally.
Petigoff: And the demographics we collect on the registration form, of course, is a free event, includes whom are they grieving and what was the relationship, what was the relationship? And we do see a variety of children and parents.
Rabbi Address: So this is two hours on Sunday. With breakouts, testimonials. When this is finished, you know, this whole cadre of people from around the country from North America, what happens after the event?
Missy Stolfi: It's interesting because sometimes at these events, what we do virtually is folks may wish to be in touch with each other afterwards if they found connection in a breakout room. If you're having a similar conversation in person, right, it's easy to exchange phone numbers with each other if you'd like to stay in touch. In order to respect privacy, however, we do not make recordings and we connect with people and ask do you both wish to be in contact. We don't want to put anyone in a position that they're being contacted offline. We don't record the program for that reason. We do not allow media, for example, in-person or virtual events. In order to really create that space folks can really open up about their stories. But we will send some follow-up communications and resources just to encourage the participants, stay connected. You know, whether it is with their local AFSP chapter or you know in the case of you know other faith communities um but just to make sure that they are taking care of themselves, especially as we enter you know a season that can be pretty challenging, many holidays are happening. There's a lot of festivities that happen towards the end of the calendar year. Looking ahead to a new year and it can be tougher for everybody, but the next fact, there's supposed to be a lot of joy and festivity, but not everyone feels that. And they can feel like a lot of pressure. And so that's intentional why Survivor Day happens just before Thanksgiving. Because these times of year can be really challenging g if you have lost somebody to suicide and they're no longer part of all of the merriness that is happening.
Petikofff: Throughout the programming we feature of Missy's email address from the Foundation for Suicide Prevention and in the follow-up, they are welcome to get back to her and say they'd like to reach me with another speaker, and then we can connect them to more resources.
Rabbi Address: Okay, I think it's important for people, Missy mentioned that the program is not being recorded so um and i think people need to understand that out of respect, obviously, for privacy. Before we have to conclude, is there still a lot of shame and guilt associated with this conversation?
Missy Stolfi: Absolutely. We've gone a long way and we have a long way to go. And so, you know, absolutely the work remains. we can look back to, you know, even a few years ago, you know, years ago, we weren't having typical conversations on a podcast, right? And we weren't having these kind of conversations, you know, out in public. There wasn't that same visibility for this topic. But there is still generations of perceptions and teachings and disinformation and myths that certainly still persist. And, you know, culturally, in terms of mental health, we are not where we need to be as recognizing taking care of it at that same level of importance as our physical health. So from a prevention standpoint as well, we can drive there. I think we are looking now at suicide as a public health issue and shifting some of that perspective and recognizing that it has a wide reach and that there are so many groups that are impacted, but there's things that many of us can do, even if we don't have special clinicians training or certain letters after our names. There’s much we can do for each other, including support somebody who lost somebody to suicide. We still have lots to do and this is why programs like this are so essential. It means so much to have support, to get the word out there. Make sure people know they're not alone if it's resonating with them.
Petikoff: We have three co-sponsors of the program, NAJC and one of the co-sponsors from Chicago called “No Shame on you”. They deal with that aspect of dealing with shame situations like this. It’s also interesting thing to note, I saw this in my research that not only counseling and speaking to each other, but you can use architecture to reduce this. When the Golden Gate Bridge was built, it had a railing to protect the workers. When they opened it, they took away the railing and they had, suicide jumping many, many years, they just restored a full railing on both sides of the bridge
And shopping centers are learning those open atrium shopping centers, but the walls will get higher to discourage the government because of themselves. They can also use architecture to offset the temptation.
Rabbi Address: Wow, thank you. Before we end, again, somebody may be listening to this today before Sunday. They want to register. They've never heard about it. How do they do that?
Missy Stolfi: Sure. So visit afsp.org and search through a Jewish Lens.
Petikoff: Or just put in Jewish and it will come up.
Missy Stolfi: Yes.
Rabbi Adress: And is there a deadline time-wise to register. In other words, if I listen to this or watch this at 9 a.m. Sunday morning, would that be too late?
Missy Stolfi: No, we'll be monitoring our registration link up to the start of the program at 9 am .m. Eastern on Sunday the 24 th. So even if you listen to this an hour before. You can reach out my contact information will be listed on the event site as well. So we can certainly send you the link and credentials to get logged in with us. So we definitely want to keep it open.
Rabbi Address: Last question. And there will be people who will watch or listen to this but after Sunday and they'll say, I didn't know about this but I really would like to connect with this organization. How does somebody do that?
Missy Stolfi: Absolutely. And that's where, again, AFSP.org is such a good wind store. It shows all the breadth and depth of the work that we do across the country and you can search for your local chapter. So wherever, if you are in the United States watching this right now, wherever you are in all 50 states, Washington, DC, and Puerto Rico, we have chapters. And so you can search by what's closest to you and get the contact information for your local chapter and list all the various programs, resources, ways to get involved and to get support. So by all means, the door is not closed to get connected with us, even if you're listening after the point.
Petikoff: If you’re particularly looking for the Jewish support if, to still find the link that gets back to you in the program.
Missy Stolfi: Absolutely.
Rabbi Address: Chaplain Barry Pitigoff and Missy Stolfi, thank you very, very much. This is a lot of information. Good luck on Sunday. I'd love to know how it goes and keep in touch with us so we can help. 988 is the contact information hotline, number. 988. Thank you very much to all of you. Thank you again for joining us on today's edition of Seekers of Meaning, the Podcast TV arm of Jewish Sacred Aging.
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